“"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."”
I get it, all of us here reminisce the past and also appreciate the aesthetic of that time, but now are able to do so only in retrospect where you can contrast it with the contemporary world and the environments we all live in, whether online or offline.
I'm posting this as a catalyst for contemplation - we will never have what we had in the past at that time, nor will we experience the same feelings we did in the past at that time. Don't get consumed by the past. Yes, we realize what was a great aesthetic and will keep it alive, let it grow and nurture it into something even more viscerally captivating. But, don't try to replicate the past, rather remember the existence of originality and how fruitless emulation is if it isn't followed by original content or ideas.
This site is what I needed, what you needed. I'm just acting as a reminder to not succumb to nostalgia too much and instead to continue on by building on top of what was abandoned in the 2000s.
Posted at 2020/10/11, 10:26:11Post ID: 2621
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I get it, all of us here reminisce the past and also appreciate the aesthetic of that time, but now are able to do so only in retrospect where you can contrast it with the contemporary world and the environments we all live in, whether online or offline.
I'm posting this as a catalyst for contemplation - we will never have what we had in the past at that time, nor will we experience the same feelings we did in the past at that time. Don't get consumed by the past. Yes, we realize what was a great aesthetic and will keep it alive, let it grow and nurture it into something even more viscerally captivating. But, don't try to replicate the past, rather remember the existence of originality and how fruitless emulation is if it isn't followed by original content or ideas.
This site is what I needed, what you needed. I'm just acting as a reminder to not succumb to nostalgia too much and instead to continue on by building on top of what was abandoned in the 2000s.
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I am young enough that I never experienced what is replicated here in its own time. However, I still appreciate the effort put into this site and understand its appeal. I'm sure there are many here like me. Not nostalgia but an ability to experience a forgotten past.
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Posted at 2020/10/11, 16:29:54Post ID: 2621:2626
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I am young enough that I never experienced what is replicated here in its own time. However, I still appreciate the effort put into this site and understand its appeal. I'm sure there are many here like me. Not nostalgia but an ability to experience a forgotten past.
Those who think network spirituality is about aesthetics will naturally fall off the wagon anyway since circlejerking around an aesthetic isn't a sustainable thing. Creating an actually generative and positive idea system as an oasis away from the graven web 3.0 dopamine holocaust is, but we all know this
Posted at 2020/10/11, 19:32:03Post ID: 2621:2627
Those who think network spirituality is about aesthetics will naturally fall off the wagon anyway since circlejerking around an aesthetic isn't a sustainable thing. Creating an actually generative and positive idea system as an oasis away from the graven web 3.0 dopamine holocaust is, but we all know this
I get it, all of us here reminisce the past and also appreciate the aesthetic of that time, but now are able to do so only in retrospect where you can contrast it with the contemporary world and the environments we all live in, whether online or offline.
I'm posting this as a catalyst for contemplation - we will never have what we had in the past at that time, nor will we experience the same feelings we did in the past at that time. Don't get consumed by the past. Yes, we realize what was a great aesthetic and will keep it alive, let it grow and nurture it into something even more viscerally captivating. But, don't try to replicate the past, rather remember the existence of originality and how fruitless emulation is if it isn't followed by original content or ideas.
This site is what I needed, what you needed. I'm just acting as a reminder to not succumb to nostalgia too much and instead to continue on by building on top of what was abandoned in the 2000s.
This isn't really a wave of nostaliga more so a wave of understanding where we belong. I am not against the contemporary world nor do I engage in nostalgic style activity all through out my persoanlity nexus or configure cubes of desire to yearn for a long lost world that is no more. The feelings that we had are now transferred into AKTION, which is what this website is all about. I made this for myself primarly as a method of action, rather than a method of desire.
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Posted at 2020/10/11, 20:28:43Post ID: 2621:2628
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I get it, all of us here reminisce the past and also appreciate the aesthetic of that time, but now are able to do so only in retrospect where you can contrast it with the contemporary world and the environments we all live in, whether online or offline.
I'm posting this as a catalyst for contemplation - we will never have what we had in the past at that time, nor will we experience the same feelings we did in the past at that time. Don't get consumed by the past. Yes, we realize what was a great aesthetic and will keep it alive, let it grow and nurture it into something even more viscerally captivating. But, don't try to replicate the past, rather remember the existence of originality and how fruitless emulation is if it isn't followed by original content or ideas.
This site is what I needed, what you needed. I'm just acting as a reminder to not succumb to nostalgia too much and instead to continue on by building on top of what was abandoned in the 2000s.
[img]https://ibb.co/vDZB1j1[/img][/quote]
This isn't really a wave of nostaliga more so a wave of understanding where we belong. I am not against the contemporary world nor do I engage in nostalgic style activity all through out my persoanlity nexus or configure cubes of desire to yearn for a long lost world that is no more. The feelings that we had are now transferred into AKTION, which is what this website is all about. I made this for myself primarly as a method of action, rather than a method of desire.
even the aesthetic aspects have a practical meaning far beyond "hearkening back to blahblahblah" - more humble graphics and visuals tend to put more focus on the content itself. older games had to rely on better game mechanics instead of flashy graphics, older movies had to rely on quality story telling instead of sexy special fx, etc. this goes back far beyond technology too. look at eastern orthodox icons, they deliberately do away with realism so that one can focus on their divine meaning without being distracted by lust of the eyes for super realistic sexy visuals that are too anchored in this world. these things are practical efforts to make our reality generative/creative/spiritually fruitful instead of consumptive and impotent
Posted at 2020/10/11, 21:10:00Post ID: 2621:2629
even the aesthetic aspects have a practical meaning far beyond "hearkening back to blahblahblah" - more humble graphics and visuals tend to put more focus on the content itself. older games had to rely on better game mechanics instead of flashy graphics, older movies had to rely on quality story telling instead of sexy special fx, etc. this goes back far beyond technology too. look at eastern orthodox icons, they deliberately do away with realism so that one can focus on their divine meaning without being distracted by lust of the eyes for super realistic sexy visuals that are too anchored in this world. these things are practical efforts to make our reality generative/creative/spiritually fruitful instead of consumptive and impotent
Yeah utility is a good point portals, modern web design of flashy home pages for software that tell you absolutely goddamn nothing but conveying emotions you'll have while using it. clicking through some 5 minute video on their site doing more of the same. Just explain what your product is for, what it does, and link me some documentation and a clear indication of what it costs.
Web is no longer Information, but Emotion Systems. Part of this is because websites are no longer places where you do things, just portals to applications. Content is for social media.
Empire your point is valid though, aesthetics aren't at the core of network spirituality, but a product of it. FOD pumps out those videos because its his way for his brain to externalize itself.
However it's also worth bearing that "getting stuck in the past" in reference to something 15 years ago is still barely gone. It got snatched from us extremely quickly. The last 10 years have been very strange indeed, but network spirituality never left, we just traded it in for shinier toys that leave us emptier, generally. Social media is a powerful tool but I'm not sure its actually done anything more helpful to us than special interest zboards did.
Posted at 2020/10/12, 05:07:57Post ID: 2621:2633
Yeah utility is a good point portals, modern web design of flashy home pages for software that tell you absolutely goddamn nothing but conveying emotions you'll have while using it. clicking through some 5 minute video on their site doing more of the same. Just explain what your product is for, what it does, and link me some documentation and a clear indication of what it costs.
Web is no longer Information, but Emotion Systems. Part of this is because websites are no longer places where you do things, just portals to applications. Content is for social media.
Empire your point is valid though, aesthetics aren't at the core of network spirituality, but a product of it. FOD pumps out those videos because its his way for his brain to externalize itself.
However it's also worth bearing that "getting stuck in the past" in reference to something 15 years ago is still barely gone. It got snatched from us extremely quickly. The last 10 years have been very strange indeed, but network spirituality never left, we just traded it in for shinier toys that leave us emptier, generally. Social media is a powerful tool but I'm not sure its actually done anything more helpful to us than special interest zboards did.
I feel like this place encapsulates the energy and vibe that we remember and gives us a way to participate in it again. We can't go back but now we have a place to preserve and enjoy what made the net great before.
Posted at 2020/10/12, 23:10:50Post ID: 2621:2638
I feel like this place encapsulates the energy and vibe that we remember and gives us a way to participate in it again. We can't go back but now we have a place to preserve and enjoy what made the net great before.
A good friend of mine always told me this Russian proverb: "The past is a lighthouse, not a port". We have to take the beauty of the past, what made us happy, and build upon it.
I was glad enough to experience those days, as when I was younger I spent all my time inside.
There will always be this inherent beauty, we just have to protect it. Do I make sense? I apologize. I'm quite tired at the moment.
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Posted at 2020/10/13, 07:25:06Post ID: 2621:2640
A good friend of mine always told me this Russian proverb: "The past is a lighthouse, not a port". We have to take the beauty of the past, what made us happy, and build upon it.
I was glad enough to experience those days, as when I was younger I spent all my time inside.
There will always be this inherent beauty, we just have to protect it. Do I make sense? I apologize. I'm quite tired at the moment.
Post 2621:2640
I get you. What's good about places like this is that it's not saturated with pointless information, notifications etc.
In my personal life i'm quite vocal about staying away from nostalgia, but I think it's getting to a point where I'm drawn to older stuff because it's simply better, for my mind specifically.
Considering getting an older phone that isn't "smart" for this same reasoning. There's a need for "dumb" phones and unsaturated online spaces like this for peoples' sanity. Sounds hyperbolic but I hope I'm making sense.
[post=2621:2640]Post 2621:2640[/post]
I get you. What's good about places like this is that it's not saturated with pointless information, notifications etc.
In my personal life i'm quite vocal about staying away from nostalgia, but I think it's getting to a point where I'm drawn to older stuff because it's simply better, for my mind specifically.
Considering getting an older phone that isn't "smart" for this same reasoning. There's a need for "dumb" phones and unsaturated online spaces like this for peoples' sanity. Sounds hyperbolic but I hope I'm making sense.
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There is something to be said about enjoying older stuff simply because they don't rely on an internet connection to function. I'll never understand the obsession with IOT everything or bluetooth connected toaster bullshit. I like knowing I have things that still function when the internet or power goes out.
Posted at 2020/10/13, 16:16:13Post ID: 2621:2645
[post=2621:2641]Post 2621:2641[/post]
There is something to be said about enjoying older stuff simply because they don't rely on an internet connection to function. I'll never understand the obsession with IOT everything or bluetooth connected toaster bullshit. I like knowing I have things that still function when the internet or power goes out.
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IOT is the most ADHD, useless thing that's all the rage right now (in da biz). I bought an electric toothbrush today that has bluetooth functionality, lol like I'm gonna use that. Bluetooth toothbrush, bluetooth toilet to increase shitting efficiency - can't wait for that, I hear top minds are on it as we speak.
I still use CDs and love listening to vinyl. I get sick of spotify sometimes because there's too much choice and I'm paying 9.99 a month to listen to the same crap.
RETVRN TO TRADITION
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IOT is the most ADHD, useless thing that's all the rage right now (in da biz). I bought an electric toothbrush today that has bluetooth functionality, lol like I'm gonna use that. Bluetooth toothbrush, bluetooth toilet to increase shitting efficiency - can't wait for that, I hear top minds are on it as we speak.
I still use CDs and love listening to vinyl. I get sick of spotify sometimes because there's too much choice and I'm paying 9.99 a month to listen to the same crap.
RETVRN TO TRADITION
I like to look at it this way :
Your Dharma is not the Dharma of your fathers.
It is good and important praise the ways of the past and even revive those ways which fit your current circumstances, but to try and transplant an era that is over into a world inhospitable to it is folly.
One of our greatest gifts as humans is the ability to adapt. So that is what we must do. Adapt.
Let the lessons of the past guide us to a future filled with light, but do not let them guide us into a simulacrum existence where we act out a play with puppets made of bones and dust.
Posted at 2020/10/14, 13:52:39Post ID: 2621:2654
I like to look at it this way :
Your Dharma is not the Dharma of your fathers.
It is good and important praise the ways of the past and even revive those ways which fit your current circumstances, but to try and transplant an era that is over into a world inhospitable to it is folly.
One of our greatest gifts as humans is the ability to adapt. So that is what we must do. Adapt.
Let the lessons of the past guide us to a future filled with light, but do not let them guide us into a simulacrum existence where we act out a play with puppets made of bones and dust.
The remembering:
Is the appreciation
And honour of past.
The recreation:
Can be grave desecration
Of the body which once lay.
To build upon what
Has been again remembered
Is to use higher method
To travel the life river.
To revel in the same thought,
To spend too long on a level:
Will provide you nothing but naught
And the laughter of a devil.
The past is an essential component for the foundation of the future, but drowning yourself within its allure is to make that foundation your grave. What grave business!
I like this site because I can see the past's influence, I like it more because it is of present and the future.
I think I have went on too long and perhaps in gibberish too-- All in moderation I suppose... All the best to all...
The remembering:
Is the appreciation
And honour of past.
The recreation:
Can be grave desecration
Of the body which once lay.
To build upon what
Has been again remembered
Is to use higher method
To travel the life river.
To revel in the same thought,
To spend too long on a level:
Will provide you nothing but naught
And the laughter of a devil.
The past is an essential component for the foundation of the future, but drowning yourself within its allure is to make that foundation your grave. What grave business!
I like this site because I can see the past's influence, I like it more because it is of present and the future.
I think I have went on too long and perhaps in gibberish too-- All in moderation I suppose... All the best to all...
“"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."”
Post 2621:2634
ive actually completely forgot the premise from which the idea to write my post came from. It probably faded away seeing people here ascertain that we're all facing the right way.
Also, I'm not, and hopefully you aren'tPost 2621:2640
either, discrediting the role aesthetics play here. For me the aesthetic is very substantial. The fulcrum even.
Post 2621:2640
Recently got a motoral razr flip phone, soon gonna go with flip phone + no iphone to see how it goes.
Posted at 2020/10/15, 22:35:50Post ID: 2621:2661
[post=2621:2634]Post 2621:2634[/post]
ive actually completely forgot the premise from which the idea to write my post came from. It probably faded away seeing people here ascertain that we're all facing the right way.
Also, I'm not, and hopefully you aren't[post=2621:2640]Post 2621:2640[/post]
either, discrediting the role aesthetics play here. For me the aesthetic is very substantial. The fulcrum even.
[post=2621:2640]Post 2621:2640[/post]
Recently got a motoral razr flip phone, soon gonna go with flip phone + no iphone to see how it goes.
deny: nostalgia
Deny: asthetics
deny: utility
rather, enjoy truth. dont make it harder than it has to be, ovr complication is the profession of the wirehead
Posted at 2020/10/16, 03:28:30Post ID: 2621:2663
deny: nostalgia
Deny: asthetics
deny: utility
rather, enjoy truth. dont make it harder than it has to be, ovr complication is the profession of the wirehead
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I get it, all of us here reminisce the past and also appreciate the aesthetic of that time, but now are able to do so only in retrospect where you can contrast it with the contemporary world and the environments we all live in, whether online or offline. I'm posting this as a catalyst for contemplation - we will never have what we had in the past at that time, nor will we experience the same feelings we did in the past at that time. Don't get consumed by the past. Yes, we realize what was a great aesthetic and will keep it alive, let it grow and nurture it into something even more viscerally captivating. But, don't try to replicate the past, rather remember the existence of originality and how fruitless emulation is if it isn't followed by original content or ideas. This site is what I needed, what you needed. I'm just acting as a reminder to not succumb to nostalgia too much and instead to continue on by building on top of what was abandoned in the 2000s.
